Please, I would buy so many pairs!

Like the title says I've tried a decent amount of flat pedal shoes and I'd say this is one of my favorite so I hope they didn't quit making it. Probably the best mountain bike shoe Etnie makes. It doesn't have as much protection and it's not as heavy duty or stiff as the Culverts (My second pick of Etnie shoe) but it's definitely the most grippy one they make. I bought these when they first came out and rode them for a season or better. They're still in decent shape but they will wear a little bit quickly which is the price you pay for good grip. Of all the mountain bike shoes I've tried this is one of the only ones to rival 510 when it comes to grip. The liners nice for keeping rocks and dirt out of your shoes. They offer decent foot protection. They don't breathe the best so I usually ride a lighter weight shoe in the middle of summer and these during cooler times but that's just personal preference.

It's been a month and still no refund, so I guess next step is CC dispute!!!

I got some vans and these. These things are way better than the vans! Get you some very geippy pedals and go ride!

Great shoe, runs half size small